Poll

We had a lot of problems with Ubuntu's "patching everything" policies, specially with Karmic. Would it be ok for you if we switch to Debian for next iso releases?

Yes, Debian is better.
77 (86.5%)
No, please stay with Ubuntu.
4 (4.5%)
I don't care, it's ok in any case.
8 (9%)

Total Members Voted: 7

Author Topic: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian  (Read 27170 times)

hermabob

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Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2010, 10:22:29 am »
Although I have only just registered with this forum I have been using openGEU for some time.
I am also encouraging many windows users to try something different.
Ubuntu has always been my first choice as I have found it difficult to get them exited about Debian my personal preferred OS.
I have however over the last 2 months started 3 users on OpenGEU  8.10 & they are very happy with it.
I to have had problems though with the patching of Ubuntu & when building some programs from source they will work on my Debian system but fail in Ubuntu.
I look forward to your decision & applaud your dedication to producing an excellent OS.

PS has anyone made a Donate Gadget I leave a link on any PC I install to encourage users to donate but a gadget would be good.

darkmaster

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Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2010, 11:19:31 am »
Although I have only just registered with this forum I have been using openGEU for some time.
I am also encouraging many windows users to try something different.
Ubuntu has always been my first choice as I have found it difficult to get them exited about Debian my personal preferred OS.
I have however over the last 2 months started 3 users on OpenGEU  8.10 & they are very happy with it.
I to have had problems though with the patching of Ubuntu & when building some programs from source they will work on my Debian system but fail in Ubuntu.
I look forward to your decision & applaud your dedication to producing an excellent OS.

PS has anyone made a Donate Gadget I leave a link on any PC I install to encourage users to donate but a gadget would be good.
honestly, never thought of anything like a Donate to OpenGEU gadget but I have to admit it's an interesting idea indeed... we'll think about it, what a weird idea :D

As for Debian, if and wen we switch will make sure that using OpenGEU will always be as easy as using Ubuntu! Only safer and faster ;)

gathlete

  • Guest
Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2010, 01:00:46 pm »
I vote Debian

fire-storm

  • Guest
Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2010, 03:22:55 pm »
Debian for me

Squirrel

  • Guest
Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2010, 03:28:47 pm »
Hi,

faced to so much problems with Ubuntu as base system I vote to change to Debian. I have installed this combination Debian + E17. It is a very good team. Presently I try some things with Luna Serena and I really like it.

Greetings

Squirrel

whires

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Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2010, 04:22:30 pm »
The move to debian has my support. I look forward to Opengeu and encourage future success. I will do the things you've suggested will help this project and I will look for more ways to get involved and help.  8)

verdegal37

  • Guest
Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2010, 05:00:09 pm »
The move to debian has my support. I look forward to Opengeu and encourage future success. I will do the things you've suggested will help this project and I will look for more ways to get involved and help.  8)

+1 ;)

Greetings:
Agust

Glauke

  • Guest
Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2010, 05:29:36 pm »
I'm a long time user of Elive, I think you know what it is....I tried OpenGEU, but I did not like the "Ubuntu way". This is exactly what I hoped: no more crappy Ubuntu stuffs, switch to Debian and build a powerful E17+Gnome distribution. In my little experience, Elive is a really good OS, but it miss some features....I would love a Debian based OpenGEU.

+1

muks

  • Guest
Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2010, 06:52:22 pm »
I really don't care much. All I want is an always updated OpenGEU asap. Earlier also we talked about rolling release. I think after moving to Sid that will also be fulfilled (sought of).

Regards
Muks

Squirrel

  • Guest
Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2010, 10:29:13 pm »
Hi,

my vote is for Debian. I have used it for several years and never
regret. It is trusty, mighty, flexible and rock stable. The problems
explained by Darkmaster are really heavy.

I am new to OPEN GEU. Looking for a distro with E17 as desktop I found
at first elive and have installed it. This distro is debian based and
works pretty well for me. Since some weeks I try OPEN GEU and I really
like it. It is interesting to find out where is the difference between
both.

If Open GEU will switch to Debian I think there are some other things
which needs discussion.

Shall OPEN GEU based on stable, testing or unstable?

Stable is the way Thanatermesis goes with elive. Good for stability and
good to realize for the developers. But I am not sure whether it makes
sense to have two similar distros.

Unstable is the way of Sidux. I had it on my disk 10 month ago and
installed E17 with easy_e17.sh. It works quite well. But stability is
better on stable. The advantage is you have the newest packages and
programs. But I think it is really heavy for the developers because
you have every day new or changed packages in unstable. They have also
to fix many bugs and find a solution for incomplete programs.

Maybe testing is an option. There are newer programs as in stable and
not so much changes within shortest time. Another option is to use a
snapshot of one of them.

Okay this decision must be done by Darkmaster and his team. But I think
it could be helpful for them to discuss about it.

Any opinion?

Greetings

Squirrel



thorpedonj

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Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2010, 12:34:03 am »
Well, I'd would prefer in some cases to stay with Ubuntu, mainly due to the fact that it is the only distro that will support my Laptop's video chipset, that being the ATI Radeon 9700 Mobility M11. However, if EnvyNG can somehow be included in future versions of OpenGEU in Debian, than I'll go debian. I don't really have any special preference, if Debian offers more stability than Ubuntu, then by all means - go Debian! 

I'm also a little ticked with Ubuntu, primarily due to the changes in Karmic. One of the biggest things that really ticked me off was the new GDM. I can't use any of my GDMs I've collected on Gnome-Look! :-( And I loved the fact that I could randomly get a new logon screen at boot-up. That was simply WAY cool! 

But now they did away with that! Big turn off for me. And the whole Xsplash thing? Is it really necessary? Just "eye-candy" for me...

My 2 cents worth...

Again, if it offers more stability, go Debian. Otherwise, stay with Ubuntu.

Offline djohnston

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Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2010, 01:01:33 am »
However, if EnvyNG can somehow be included in future versions of OpenGEU in Debian, than I'll go debian.

From Envy's author's webpage:

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"Envy" is an application for Ubuntu Linux and Debian

Sonic

  • Guest
Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2010, 01:13:05 am »
I would prefer Debian!!!
But why not switching to BSD?  ;) *dreaming*
There is just one question coming on my mind right now, could you implement Epanel (which was used by Elive) in the next release?
I'm running OpenGEU but I liked the Epanel from Elive very much when I tried it some time ago.

-Cyb3r_D00m
« Last Edit: February 04, 2010, 12:17:12 am by Cyb3r_D00m »

franz1789

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Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2010, 03:10:38 pm »
OOOHH, finally you realized Ubuntu IS CRAP! Debian is far more stable, usable, useful, easy, bleeding-edge, developed, supported, fast, lightweight and so on...
+1 for this project if it really changes ubuntu for debian

But why not switching to BSD?  ;) *dreaming*
well, why not arch linux? chakra is arch linux + easy installer + kdemod ... why not arch linux (team don't patch anything, except for reiserFS) + easy installer (I think it's called anaconda) + GE ? it would be a faster, stabler and more bleeding-edge linux, with the use of pacman + yaourt that helps a lot... perhaps it's only a dream, but it would be interesting...

kjb34

  • Guest
Re: OpenGEU's future and Ubuntu vs Debian
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2010, 10:15:37 pm »
I voted for Debian. If it makes OpenGEU more stable then I'm all for it


 

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